the lobbyists call their friends up in congress to thwart this industry that was trying to put science around coo schools meal. >> there have been reform attempts in the past. how did they fail? >> yes, the government is influenced and the usda is influenced by big food. we'll call it big food. but that's the precise reason why we should reduce usda influence and control over what kids are eating. we need to return this to the state and frankly to the local school district who have a better sense of the need of the children in the school and a better sense of the regional tastes of the kids. i mean, the usda comes up with lists of approved fruits and vegetables. they get really into the detai details. kids can't have more than a cup of peas a peak. it's up sord that someone is coming up with these rules when we should be trusting local school officials and local lunch ladies, there might be lunch men out there, but i think we should be trusting people on the local level rather than strengthening and increasing the power of the usd. >> power to the lunch lady. i want to get some tweets